The Livery Stable | Genetic Breeding Adoptable [games & customs]

[Whimsy]

You find yourself looking inside a barn, stables full of sun rays and gleaming beautiful horses. Of every color and pattern, they seem like mystical creatues as their shining glimmer. A lovely woman approachs you.

This is the livery stables she says we raise and breed superb quality horses for showing in the arena. she pauses How can I help you?

you inquire Im here to purchase a horse. she smiles widely Well then you are in the correct place.

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The livery stables thrives because they understand the genetic makeup of every horse the own. Their foals are carefully calculated and if a horse is bred that does not pass the quality standards they are sterliezed and sold as pets only.

We expect you to use the same standards when breeding your own horses. There for we have a few standards for you to look at.

-Our horses are never inbred or over bred.
Mares are bred a max of 5 times in their life time and we give them breaks inbetween seasons.
We do not practice inbreeding of any sort here at the livery.

-We breed in "seasons" which allows us to control the outcome of all the foals. We do not allow our stallions to come in contact with our mares but every other month.

-We are careful about breeding horses when it comes to overo and overo patterns. Mares that show or carry overo are not bred to stallions that show or carry overo. The chance of a disabled foal is far to high.

-We do not breed horses that do not meet the above standards. So if we get a mare in thats over bred, or a disabled overo foal for example that are sterlized and sold to pet only homes.

We follow these rules strictly, we ask our clients to do the same. However we cannot force you to follow them also. These are at your own risk.

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The Genetics

[URLhttp://www.horsetesting.com/CCalculator1.asp]Genetic Calculator[/URL]

Locus One Gender.

Female - XX
Male - XY

Locus Two Color.
Black-EE
Red Factor Carrier-Ee
Red Factor Show-ee

Locus Three Agouti
Non-nn
Het-Aa
Hom-AA

Locus Four Creme
Cream
Non-nn
Single-nCr
Doube-CrCr

(locus 1-4 are basic genes)


Locus Five Silver
Silver
Non-nn
Het-Zz
Hom-ZZ



Locus Six Dun
Dun
Non-nn
Het-Dd
Hom-DD

Locus Seven Roan
Roan
Non-nn
Het-Rr
Hom-RR

Locus Eight Appaloosa
Appaloosa
Non-nn
Het-lpLP
Hom-LPLP

(locus 5-8 are extended genes)


Locus Nine
Tobiano
Non-nn
Het-nT
Hom-TT

Locus Ten
Overo
Non-nn
Het-nO
Hom-OO (disable)

(locus 9 & 10 are basic paint genes)


Locus Eleven
Sabino
Non-nn
Het-nSb
Hom-SbSb

Locus Twelve
Splash
Non-nn
Het-nSpl
Hom-SplSpl

(Locus 11 & 12 are extended overo genes)



Locus Thriteen
Grey
Non-nn
Het-Gg
Hom-GG

(locus 13 is an super extension)
Face and Legs white spots

1.star
2.stripe
3.blaze
4.snip
5.lip
6.bald




1.stocking
2.half stocking
3.sock
4.cornet



Notes:Face and leg white spots are not genetic, rather they are at random.

However a combination of leg and the first three face markings are indications of carried tobiano genes. Lack of leg markings and shown markings of the last three face markings are indications of carried overo genes.

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Breeding

Breeding happens in seasons, and when breeding we ask that you follow the above standards.

Breeding occurs when you posses a mare and stallion or the permission to use them for another owner.

Mares may breed once a season.
Stallions maky breed as many times as youd like.

Breeding happens between the first and fifth of the month.
On the 15th of the month mares are scanned.
On the 30th mares give birth to the foals.

Foals grown 30 days after birth, and can be bred.

Noted breeders are people whom have notably bred quality horses over a matter of 3 seasons. These breeders may breed up to 3 mares while none noted breeders may breed 2 mares per season.

All may only keep 2 foals per season. You must find homes for them by the 30th day when they grow. Names are given after the foals have grown.

Affixs may be added to foals that you breed, they go on the end of names. You must first register your affix for a price of 50k pg and it may not be any longer that 5 characters.

If a foal is born disabled, they are sterlized at birth and cannot be traded or sold. You can claim them as one of your two foals or they can be given back to the livery.

Mares can concieve and birth twins, they are considered as a single foal slot if they are kept or traded together.

When born foals have a genetic make up of 7 locuses, the livery keeps records of each genetic makeup and an owner can purchase said record for a price of 25k or they are welcome to guess the makeup and once a locus is correctly figured out the livery will disclose that the infomation is correct.


Breeding Sch. 2012
May
July
September
November

Breeding For Secundi

Because secundi is a smaller community breeding will not be confined to seasons. However since I'm allowing trading and such between PI and secundi I'm leaving PIs breeding stuff up.

Breeding for secundi will be open all year long. However there are still some guide lines.

Mares may breed once every other month.
Stallions maky breed as many times as youd like.

Breeding happens between the first and fifth of the month.
On the 15th of the month mares are scanned.
On the 30th mares give birth to the foals.

Foals grown 30 days after birth, and can be bred.

Noted breeders are people whom have notably bred quality horses over a matter of 3 months. These breeders may breed up to 5 mares while none noted breeders may breed 3 mares per month.

All may only keep 2 foals per season. You must find homes for them by the 30th day when they grow. Names are given after the foals have grown.

Affixs may be added to foals that you breed, they go on the end of names. You must first register your affix for a price of 50k pg and it may not be any longer that 5 characters.

If a foal is born disabled, they are sterlized at birth and cannot be traded or sold. You can claim them as one of your two foals or they can be given back to the livery.

Mares can concieve and birth twins, they are considered as a single foal slot if they are kept or traded together.

When born foals have a genetic make up of 7 locuses, the livery keeps records of each genetic makeup and an owner can purchase said record for a price of 25k or they are welcome to guess the makeup and once a locus is correctly figured out the livery will disclose that the infomation is correct.



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Showing

There are three months for which the horses can show in, each quarter contains two shows, one is horsemanship and the other is showmanship.

Horsemanship is an RP that is centered on which the horses looks and attitude are tested.

Showmaniship is an RP that is centered on which the owner/showers ability to handle the horse is tested.

Showing Sch. 2012
June
Augest
December


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[Whimsy]

Breeding, Customs, and Flatsales

Breeding Business

To breed post this form
Mare Image:
Stallion Image:

If you need permission the owner needs to post this
Horse Image:
Permisson given to:
for use with:

Mares Being Scanned
None

Foals Due
None

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Customs

You may order a custom at any time, so long as slots are open.

Base Fee
Female:50k
Male:25k

Extras
Agouti-5k
Creme-5k per
Silver-10k
Dun-10k
Roan-10k
Appaloosa-25k
Tobiano-10k
Overo-20k
+sabino-10k
+splash-20k
Grey-50k

If you want the gene carried please state it in the form.

Name:
Gender:
Owner:
Color:(black or chesnut)
Agouti:(makes black bay)
Creme:(none one or two)
Silver(only shows on black or bay)
Dun:
Roan:
Appaloosa(blanket, leopard, snowflake)
Tobiano:
Overo:
Sabino:(must have overo)
Splash:(must have overo)
Grey:(covers all other genes)

Remember carried genes have a 25% chance while shown genes have  50% chance.

Slots.
1.Open
2.Open
3.closed
4.closed
5.closed

Flatsales

None

[Whimsy]

Mine..you may now post

[Ryuukokoro]

All that info kinda made my eyes glaze over. XD;; So much complication for breeding! For someone who just grasped the basics of Stable/Quin, trying to read through that was a bit confusing.

However, I think the lines are just adorable!! Those big floppy legs look like it's a big doll I want to cuddle. X3 I think I will have fun breeding even if I can't understand all the genetic stuff. Are the marking genes, like tobiano and appaloosa, different each time or templated?

Do you plan to do events in this thread, or is this just for information? If it's for information only I can move it over to the Help or Notary Office for you. ^_^

[Whimsy]

*MERP* the genetics are just like the stable sweetie ^.^ if you understand horse genetics you can do it. Non means no gene, Het means carried, Hom means showns :}

All the markings are done every time, no templates.

& If theres 3-4 people interested ill be running events here C:

[Kahlira]

Looks interesting XD Though I have zero grasp of the whole genetics thing, pretty x pretty = pretty, yes? That's all I need to know XD (OH! And don't breed to uh, overo's together) But yes, They look so cute =D Would love some!

[Whimsy]

Kah thats totally fine too :]

[SkySong]

I'm interested. Do the horses usually lack mane and tail, or was that just for example purposes? I kinda skipped over the main genetic part, but I'll probably go back and read it later.

[Whimsy]

Just a rundown genes

Gene One is color
EE is a black horse
Ee is a black horse that carries chestnut
ee is a chestnut horse

Gene two is agouti
AA on a black horse is a bay horse
Aa on a black horses is a black horse that carries bay
AA does not show on a chestnut, but is a chestnut that carries bay
Aa is a chesnut carrying bay

So really quick all horses start as a black base, however if a horse has double reccessive black gene (ee) its seen as a red or chestnut horse. Agouti turns a black horse into a bay :] it doesnt show on a red horse, but carries.

Gene three is cremes
one creme makes
Black-smokey black
Bay-Buckskin
Chestnut-palomino
two cremes make
Black-smokey cream
Bay-Perlino
Chesnut-Cremello

the next is a silver gene which only shows on black horses so
Black horse or red horse that is het carries the silver gene
Black horse thats hom shows silver, red horse thats hom carries the gene

Then we have the rest of the genes that show on ANY colored horse.

Some notes about those genes are.
the sabino and splash genes are extenions of the overo gene, so they require an overo gene to be present and showing to show themselves. So if you breed a sabino to a splash your liable to get a disabled double overo foal!

Grey gene COVERS all other visible genes. It greys the horse out completely, Grey foals are born with their orginal markings and colors and when they turn to adults they turn grey.

[Whimsy]

^.^ Sky they have manes and tails I promise lol, those were just for the examples.

[SkySong]

Ok, I think I understand the genetics, then. And glad to hear that, without them they don't look quite right.

[Whimsy]

Since theres interest I'll set up the thread for some fun as soon as i get the foal lines done.

[Aralie]

Ooh! They are so cute! <3 I think I have a grasp on most of the breeding stuffs!

[Ryuukokoro]

Hmm I think I can figure out the breeding then. XD Yes please! Events!

[Rosewood]

*stalks* I love the lines, and even though the genetic part is confusing to me right now, i'd love to start hording some pretties. ^_^

[Whimsy]

Games

This game is a scavenger hunt. You must find these things on secundi! Whether it be a adoptable image or word someones used. The peson whom finds the most things on here by April 10th 11:00:00 wins the girl.



XX/ee/Aa/CrCr/nn/nn/Rr/nn/nn/OO/SbSb/nn/Gg

Things to find
-Something Green
-Something Little
-Something Sparkly/Glittery
-A word thats long
-A word thats not commonly used

:]

[SkySong]

Err, Whismy? Today's the ninth, even by Secundi time. Unless this is going till April 8th, 2013?

[Aralie]

Name: Spirit
Gender: Male
Owner: Aralie
Color: Black
Agouti: Yes
Creme: One
Silver: No
Dun: Carried
Roan: No
Appaloosa: No
Tobiano: Carried
Overo: No
Sabino: N/A
Splash: N/A
Grey: No

Cost: 55k

I think that is right to get one like Him
If I am wrong let me know what needs to change for that ^_^
I will happily pay the extra for anything I missed <3