Where the Starlight Tavern is now

[SkySong]

With Rosedawn's prodding, I've started looking at the ST again. I remember a year or so ago I tried running something, but I'm not sure if I wrapped that up.

If I do start these up again I'll be finishing that up before any new events.

However, my art style has changed a bit since I first launched ST and as such creating new breeds has been harder and harder to do. I'm at the point where I can color the current lines if needed, but they don't really inspire me to color them, let alone create more.

Basically, I'm at the point where I'm thinking about revamping the adopt. While procrastinating on life I got these sketches down:


And I think I prefer these over the current ST poses. If I end up going with a revamp, what I plan on doing is eventually have four different sets of lines, which would count as breeds in the Secundi system, and then have mutations like bob tail, lion mane, munchkin, etc.

This would allow players to have a cat with say both bob tail and munchkin for example instead of just one or the other. It would also allow me to add more of these mutations more quickly since I could just edit the existing lines.

Now revamping an adopt is always a messy business and as such I would greatly appreciate input from followers on what you think should happen. There's a quick poll up, you can change your vote, and it's open for a couple weeks. Any thoughts beyond what the poll covers is also greatly appreciated.

I would love to start the ST up again but really need input before I go forward.

Sizes poll refer to are:
large
medium
small
medium-small

[YourLoveOnly]

I want to say "new lines seem lovely, but I'd love it if the old lines can also still be obtained" which does not seem to be an option (I thought the 1st option meant that but upon rereading I think I misunderstood), so I shall just post xD I like either the small or the medium size. If you struggle with old lines perhaps just offer through full customs or trades or whatever.

[Nako]

I'd be fine with whatever you decide! I looked over my old tavern cats that were song customs and not only do I love my cats, but they got me back in touch with songs that I loved. I'd much look forward to collecting more, new lines or not.

[SkySong]

@YLO I don't mind keeping the old lines around and coloring them on occasion, but they'd probably be only trade related like you suggest. I just don't think I could continue as I was with them hence the poll.

@Nako thank you! <3 I looked over yours as well - I remember the song your bunny cat is from, actually! I remember liking the video for it.

[Sunchaser]

I just miss them

[SkySong]

Awww, love ya Sunny! :hugs:

For those on the fence, I've updated the sketches a little to show more face detail. I realize they were a bit general before and faces are generally often the defining factor.

[Lectral]

I love the old kitties, very much, but the new style is nice as well.  I would like to see them continue, in whatever form works best for you, but the possibility of the old lines *potentially* being available in limited fashion would be an added bonus XD

That said, I am voting for the mid size - the small are almost too small for good detail (for me anyways), and the large seem a little overwhelming!

[Ryuukokoro]

I miss the Starlight Tavern so much! I'm so glad Rose talked to you about them, they were one of my fave shops. I love their backstory and your coloring style!

I'm sad to hear you don't like the old lines anymore, though I can understand. It's your art, after all. I'm sad I never got a chance to collect some of the old lines, though, like the bunnies and lions. But if you need new lineart to get back into the swing of your adoptable, I would definitely take new lineart over not doing the shop!

I think the small size example you have posted is too small to see detail, but the medium size seems a little too big... It's twice the size that the ST cats used to be. Almost the size of an Elenaria, and those are about the biggest adoptables we have here on Secundi.

I would say make them bigger than the Small option, but not as big as the medium option. Really I think the size of the old lineart was the perfect size. Large enough to see all the markings, but small enough that it doesn't take an extra long time to color each one.

I can't wait to see more ST in the future!

[SkySong]

@Lectral thank you so much!! I think if I do go with the new lines the old lines will probably end up being used occasionally since enough people seem to still like them.

@Ryuu I can't thank you enough for the feedback! I really appreciate the support. I went back to my sketches and played around with sizing a bit more. I thought the small were about the size of the ST but it looks like the sketches are actually a little bit smaller. Here's the halfway point of the small and the medium, which is more similar in size to the current lines.

I definitely agree with what you're talking about size wise, so I'm adding the medium-small to the poll!

[Ryuukokoro]

Here's the halfway point of the small and the medium, which is more similar in size to the current lines.

I definitely agree with what you're talking about size wise, so I'm adding the medium-small to the poll!

Oooo I love that size, I think it's perfect! My vote is for that one.

[YourLoveOnly]

I can't seem to change my vote but this new in between size seems perfect!

[Willow]

I would also vote the medium-small size.

And like most others I would be very sad to see the old lines cut off, I really like them, but the new ones are also nice to accompany them C:
Either way I'll just be excited to have the adoptable back! <3

[SkySong]

Glad the medium-small is working!

@Willow thank you so much! :hugs: Even if it's like most others I do appreciate hearing it. Voice that speaks is the voice that's heard and all that.

[Rosedawn]

Skysong we just love them and the reality is if the old lines make you not want to do them then you HAVE to do new lines <3 I love the trade option but inspiration is key. You have to WANT to work on them or you never will.

Also medium small ftw.

[SkySong]

HAVE to, eh? jk jk I get what you mean and I appreciate what you're saying. <3


Since it seems people seem to like the medium-small size the best for the new lines, any updates I do will be in that size. (I'm still doing everything in the large size, but it seems to scale well for now)

[SkySong]

Spent more time than I really should have on lining and getting some shading in, but this is the style I'm leaning towards for the revamp.


Red dude doesn't have his shading and I don't think I'm gonna end up coloring the lines, but markings will be more in his style than in the brown tabby. Brown tabby is showing off partial shading!

[Riverwind]

I LOVE THE NEW LINES omigosh O: I also really love the old lines but these look a lot better to me. I can see how most everyone is hoping to keep the old ones as an option as well.

I think I can conclude that no one here wants you to try to do something if you're that uncomfortable with it so switching to these new lines definitely seems right if that's what you want to do. And I for one will be looking forward to collecting the new ones XD

[YourLoveOnly]

Looks stunning!

[Wildfilly94]

Medium-small size is perf, and like the others have said, I love the old lines but I also love the new lines. Having the old available every great once in a while would be nice, but Im fine with whatver! Can't wait to see these guys actuve again <3

[Sunchaser]

Puts them in pocket and runs off* .... You see nothing lol

Love them!!!

[Rosewood]

Oh wow, they look COURAGEOUS! Can i have a ton? I do still really love the old lines, but i have no quarrels with you changing to these. :O

[Lectral]

*steals the red tabby as is*  I love the way he looks, even without shading >.>

[Ryuukokoro]

Such purdy!!