Silvanon's Stable Horses up for Breed

[Silvanon]

Ok, I have a goal of working out the full gene sets of all my horses.  To that end, I am putting my horses up for free Breeds/RBs provided you are putting them with a partner that will likely give me genetic info.  I'm putting below my thoughts on good pairings for genetic info, but feel free to ask if you have another pairing in mind.  Available pairings will change as I get genetic info.


Copper
Coat Color: Chestnut Tobiano
Currently known genes: ?a ee cc rr dd gg ww ll ?n Tt oo P? Ff Z? ??
Last bred: 3-15-10, 2-27-10, 2-13-10
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Black, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Brandir
Coat Color: Black Leopard Appaloosa
Currently known genes: aa E? cc rr dd gg ww Ll nn tt oo ?? ?? zz ??
Last bred: 3-2-10, 2-27-10, 2-12-10
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Septarian
Coat Color: Bay Roan
Currently known genes: Aa E? cc Rr dd gg ww ll ?n tt oo ?? ?? zz ?? 
Last bred: Never
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Dash
Coat Color: Black Silver Dapple Leopard Appaloosa
Currently known genes: aa Ee cc rr dd gg ww Ll nn tt oo ?? ?? Zz ??
Last bred: 3-15-10
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Overo (frame or splash), Flaxen, Grey (fleabitten only)


Golden Dawn
Coat Color: Chestnut Flaxen Tobiano Blanket Appaloosa
Currently known genes: ?? ee cc rr dd gg ww L? Nn Tt oo ?? ff ?? ?? 
Last bred: 3-9-10, 3-6-10
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Black, Any non-appaloosa, Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Mushroom
Coat Color: Blue Roan
Currently known genes: aa E? cc R? dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz ??   
Last bred: Never
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Any non-roan, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Flaxen, Grey (fleabitten only)


Theo
Coat Color: Palomino Frame Overo
Currently known genes: ?? ee Cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo PP F? ?? ??   
Last bred: 2-25-10, 2-10-10
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Black, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Flaxen, Grey (fleabitten only)


Mares - please note mares cannot be bred again within a month of last breeding date


Augite
Coat Color: Black Leopard Appaloosa
Currently known genes: aa E? cc rr dd gg ww L? nn tt oo ?? ?? zz ?? 
Last bred: 2-27-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Any non-appaloosa, Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Sasha
Coat Color: Bay Roan
Currently known genes: A? E? cc R? dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz ??   
Last bred: 3-15-10, 2-12-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Black, Chestnut, Any non-roan, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Aella
Coat Color: Black Tobiano
Currently known genes: aa Ee cc rr dd gg ww ll N? Tt oo ?? ?? zz ??   
Last bred: 3-8-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut (flaxen only), Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Imogen
Coat Color: Blue Dun
Currently known genes: aa E? cc rr D? gg ww ll ?n tt oo ?? ?? zz ??   
Last bred: 3-15-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Any non-Dun, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Nanaea
Coat Color: Chestnut Overo
Currently known genes: ?At ee cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo PP F? ?? ??     
Last bred: 2-27-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Black, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Flaxen, Grey (fleabitten only)


Tiara
Coat Color: Bay
Currently known genes: Aa E? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz ??     
Last bred: Never
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Brownie
Coat Color: Brown
Currently known genes: Ata Ee cc rr dd gg ww ll ?n tt oo ?? ?f zz ??   
Last bred: Never
Free studdings when paired with the following coat colors: Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Flaxen, Grey (fleabitten only)


Golden Sunset
Coat Color: Chestnut Flaxen Tobiano Blanket Appaloosa
Currently known genes: ?? ee cc rr dd gg ww L? Nn Tt oo ?? ff ?? ?? 
Last bred: 3-6-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Black, Any non-appaloosa, Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)
- this mare will only be available intermittently, as I intend to breed her a fair bit myself


Echo
Coat Color: Grey Tobiano Leopard Appaloosa
Currently known genes: ?? E? C? rr dd Gg ww L? nn T? oo ?? ?? ?z B? 
Last bred: 3-13-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Black, Chestnut, Any non-Appaloosa, and non-Tobiano, Overo (frame or splash), Flaxen, Grey (fleabitten only)


Krystelle
Coat Color: Black Leopard Appaloosa
Currently known genes: aa E? cc rr dd gg ww L? nn tt oo ?p ?? zz ?? 
Last bred: 3-2-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Any non-appaloosa, Overo (frame or splash), Grey (fleabitten only)


Serrena
Coat Color: Silver Dapple Mouse Dun
Currently known genes: Ata E? cc rr Dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?p ?? Z? ??   
Last bred: 2-25-10
Free reverse breeds when paired with the following coat colors: Chestnut, Appaloosa (leopard or snowflake), Overo (frame or splash), Any non-Silver Dapple, Grey (fleabitten only)

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The following horses are available for a large fee.


Rainbow Snowflake
Coat Color: White
Currently known genes: Aa Ee Cc Rr Dd Gg Ww Ll Nn Tt Oo Pp Ff Zz Bb   
Last bred: 3-15-10, 3-6-10
Fee: One foaling paddock, tag-it, or horse


Mud
Coat Color: Sooty Buckskin
Currently known genes: Ata Ee Cc rr dd gg ww ll Nn tt oo Pp ff zz bb   
Last bred: 3-6-10
Fee: One foaling paddock, tag-it, or horse


Sunshine
Coat Color: Palomino
Currently known genes: Ata ee Cc rr dd gg ww ll Nn tt oo Pp ff zz bb   
Last bred: 3-15-10
Fee: One foaling paddock or horse

Note: Mud and Sunshine were created specially to pair up with Rainbow Snowflake.  Together they can throw literally any color of Stable horse.  Mud will produce more A-locus-coat babies in comparision to Sunshine, who has a higher probability of E-locus (chestnut) babies.



Muse
Coat Color: Fleabitten Grey Roan Dun Sabino Overo Silver Dapple
Currently known genes: ?? ?? ?? Rr Dd Gg ww ll ?? tt Oo Pp ?f Zz bb   
Last bred: Never
Fee: One foaling paddock or horse, or a large sum of SG

[IvySpring]

I have Sky that you can pair with Augite and Dip with Imogen?





Sky is a Blue Dun and Dip is a liver chestnut

[YourLoveOnly]

If you could help me to figure out possible outcomes then I may be interested in this ^^

- Indepently Happy, a grulla blanket appy, to go with Copper.

- Come In Closer, a grey appy girl (I think blanket) to go with Theo.

- A Few Small Bruises, a palomino leopard appy to go with Sasha.

- Weight of the World, a grey sabino overo, to go with Krystelle.

Could you help me predict outcomes so I can select an interesting couple?
You can also suggest another pair if you want.

[Garney]

You should totally breed with all of mine. And figure out all their genes XD

[Fwuffly]

I've been holding off using my breeding paddock but a couple of your herd have tempted me to much.

I really love Copper and thought he may be a nice breed with Independence, although shes not a leopard or snowflake.



The other I am tempted by is Sasha, to Phoenix:



I know very little about genetics (the best i can do is guess red or black base!) so I couldnt even guess the outcome but if either of those would produce a nice foal feel free to PM me

[Silvanon]

IvySpring - I'm a bit confused if you're offering your horses to me for studding, or if you're interested in breedings for yourself.

If you're wanting breedings, then I'll mark those two mares as reserved for you. 

If you're offering to me for studding, thank you - I'll keep them in mind for the next time I have a foaling paddock.

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YourLoveOnly -

Indepently Happy (grulla blanket appy) x Copper (Chestnut Tobiano)
- Definite possibilities: Baby could be Tobiano, Appy, Dun factor, or any combination of those.  Funnest definite possible outcome would be a Tobiano appaloosa dun.
- Unknowns:  We lack gene information to say if baby's base coat could be Bay, Black, Chestnut, or any combination of those.  Generally speaking Bay is the most likely.  No idea what appy patterns are possible.  A non-tobiano, non-appy and/or non-dun coat may be possible.

Come In Closer (grey appy girl) x Theo (Palomino Frame Overo)
- Definite possibilities: Base coats - Grey (at least 50% chance).  Patterns - Appaloosa, Overo, or both.  Overo pattern will not be splash.
- Unknowns: If Closer is heterozygous Grey, then Bay, Black and chestnut become possible base coats.  Following that, if Theo gives his dilute gene, baby could be Buckskin, Smokey Black, or Palomino.  If Closer carries dilute too, then the double dilute colors become possibilites.  If Closer carries Dun, the Dun colors become possibilites.  No idea what appaloosa patterns are possible with this pair.  Overo coat may be able to be frame or sabino, or possibly both. A non-appy or non-overo coat may be possible.

A Few Small Bruises (palomino leopard appy) x Sasha (Bay Roan)
- Definite possibilites: Base coats - bay, buckskin.  Patterns - roan, appaloosa, or both.  Appy pattern will not be snowflake.
- Unknowns: Base coats - chestnut, Palomino, Black and Smokey black may be possible.  A non-roan or non-appaloosa coat may be possible.  Appy pattern may be able to be blanket or leopard, or both might be possibilities.

Weight of the World (grey sabino overo) x Krystelle (Black Leopard Appaloosa)
- Definite possibilities: Base coats - grey Patterns - Appaloosa, Overo or both.  Appy pattern will not be snowflake.
- Unknowns:  Base coat - If World is heterozygous Grey, then Bay, Black and chestnut become possible base coats. If he carries dun, then the dun colors become possible.  If he carries one dilute, then the dilute colors become possible.  If he carries two dilutes, then the double dilutes become possible.  Appaloosa might be able to be leopard, blanket, or both.  Overo might be able to be frame, sabino, or splash, or some combination thereof.


If any of your suggested horses have had foals already, then we can likely narrow down some of the unknowns.

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Garney - hehe, ok, next time I have foaling paddocks I'll see what pairs up well.    In the meantime if you want me to tell you what we can already know about your horses genes, I will.

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Fwuffly - I think both of your horses there are palominos, yes?  If you like I can do out possible offspring like I did for YLO.


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So, basically, yeah, all of you let me know if/who you'd like to reserve for breedings, and I'll mark you down.  First come first served.

[Fwuffly]

Silvanon that would be great if you dont mind.  Both are Palaminos, I was toying with the idea of a Palamino stables.

[PonyMama]

I have my new baby, which when grows I may be willing to breed to help you figure things out.  You know my curveball from two black parents

[Silvanon]

Fwuffly -

Independence (Palomino Blanket Appy) x Copper (Chestnut Tobiano)
- Definite possibilites: Base coats - chestnut, palomino. Patterns - Tobiano, Appaloosa, or both
- Unknowns: Flaxen might be possible.  Non-tobiano and/or non-appaloosa may be possible.  Snowflake, blanket and/or leopard appy might be possible.

Phoenix (Palomino Blanket Appy) x Sasha (Bay Roan)
- Definite possibilites: Base coats - bay, buckskin. Patterns - Appaloosa, Roan, or both.
- Unknowns: Base coats - chestnut and palomino might be possible.  Black and smokey black might also be possible, although less likely.  Non-roan and/or non-appaloosa may be possible.  Snowflake, blanket and/or leopard appy might be possible.

Just as a note if you're wanting palominos - Palominos never breed 100% true, because they're made with Cc instead of CC or cc.  The only way to guarantee a Palomino foal is to breed a Perlino to a Chestnut.   

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PonyMama - thanks very much! 

[Fwuffly]

Thanks for that Silvanon, and the little hint on Palominos

Independence x Copper, sound like the best bet for a Palomino, could I use him for stud?

[Silvanon]

Certainly, Fwuffly! 

[Fwuffly]

Thank you Silvanon - I shall pop the breed in the correct thread *goes off to find it*

[IvySpring]

Ah I'm sorry my wording was kind of off, and I think I misread your post I don't have any foaling paddocks right now- so I guess if you had needed them for studding to figure out their genetics I was offering them for stud. But since you don't have any paddocks, I'll wait until mine is open and then come back and see who's still available :]

[YourLoveOnly]

Come In Closer x Theo sounds like a really interesting combination that could reveal quite a lot about my girl's genes. =3
Do you wanna go with that pair?

[Tribe]

Sil id love to use one of your girls to see what all i can bring out in this boy (hes an odd one)



Hes a bucksking roan overo paint.

If youd like to tell me which of the females you think would go best ill try to find a lovely foaling paddock to do a breed >.>

[Silvanon]

YLO - sure, that really will be an interesting pairing.  I'll post permission whenever you post the breeding. 

[Silvanon]

Hunni - here's the possibilities:

Challenge (buckskin roan frame overo) x Augite (black leopard appy)
- Definite possibilites: Base coats - Bay, buckskin. Patterns - Roan, Overo, Appaloosa, or any combination of those.  Non-overo is definitely possible.  Snowflake appy is not possible.  Splash overo is not possible.
- Unknowns: Base coat might be able to be black and smokey cream.  Although less likely, chestnut and palomino might also be possible.  If chestnut, flaxen mane might also be possible. Non-roan and non-appy might be possible.  Appy might be able to be leopard and/or blanket. Overo might be able to be frame, sabino, or both.   

Challenge (buckskin roan frame overo) x Sasha (bay roan) - breed not available until 3/13/10
- Definite possibilites: Base coats - Bay, buckskin. Patterns - Roan, Overo, or both.  Non-overo is definitely possible. Splash overo is not possible. 
- Unknowns: Base coat might be able to be black and smokey cream.  Although less likely, chestnut and palomino might also be possible. If chestnut, flaxen mane might also be possible. Non-roan may be possible. Overo might be able to be frame, sabino, or both.   

Challenge (buckskin roan frame overo) x Aella (black tobiano)
- Definite possibilites: Base coats - Bay, buckskin. Patterns - Roan, Overo, Tobiano, or any combination of those.  Non-overo is definitely possible. Splash overo is not possible.
- Unknowns: Base coat might be able to be black and smokey cream.  Although less likely, chestnut and palomino might also be possible.  If chestnut, flaxen mane might also be possible. Non-roan and non-tobiano might be possible. Overo might be able to be frame, sabino, or both. 

Challenge (buckskin roan frame overo) x Imogen (blue dun)
- Definite possibilites: Base coats - Bay, buckskin, yellow dun, buckskin dun. Patterns - Roan, Overo, Tobiano, or any combination of those.  Non-overo is definitely possible. Splash overo is not possible.
- Unknowns: Base coat might be able to be black, smokey cream, blue dun, and smokey cream dun.  Although less likely, chestnut, palomino, red dun and palomino dun (dunalino) might also be possible.  If chestnut, flaxen mane might also be possible. Non-roan and non-dun might be possible. Overo might be able to be frame, sabino, or both.

Challenge (buckskin roan frame overo) x Naneae (chestnut frame overo)
- Definite possibilites: 25% chance dead baby.  Base coats - Bay, buckskin. Patterns - Roan, Overo or both.  25% chance non-overo. 50% chance frame overo.
- Unknowns: Base coat might be able to be black, smokey cream, chestnut and palomino. If chestnut, flaxen mane might also be possible. Non-roan might be possible.

Genetically all those pairings are interesting, although I wouldn't recommend Naneae due to the chance of lethal genes.  It depends what patterns you like having a chance at.

[toffeeca]

Can you tell me what outcomes could come out of either of your draft mares and my male

[Silvanon]

Sure

Night Splash (Black Spash Overo) x Krystelle (Black Leopard Appaloosa)
- Definite possibilities: Base coat - could be black. Baby could be Appaloosa, Overo, or both.  Appaloosa will not be snowflake, and Overo will not be frame.  Non-overo is possible.
- Unknowns:  Base coat - might be able to be Chestnut.  If Chestnut, Flaxen might be possible.  Appaloosa might be able to be leopard, blanket, or both.  Overo might be able to be splash, sabino, or both. Non-appaloosa might be possible.

Night Splash (Black Spash Overo) x Serrena (Silver Dapple Mouse Dun)
- Definite possibilities: Base coat - could be Silver Dapple. Baby could be Appaloosa, Dun, or both.  Overo will not be frame. Non-overo is possible.
- Unknowns:  Base coat - might be able to be Brown, Black, and/or Chestnut.  If Chestnut, Flaxen might be possible. Overo might be able to be splash, sabino, or both. Non-dun might be possible.

[toffeeca]

Can I get a breed with Serrena?

[YourLoveOnly]

I'm ready to post the breeding, but I was wondering what you think a good guess would be?

[Silvanon]

toffeeca - absolutely.

YLO - if it were me, I'd guess Grey Overo Appaloosa.  I'd expect about one wrong and two right from that guess, but I'd still put all three because it's hard to say which would be which.  (It's possible for them all to be right or all to be wrong, just to warn you.  There aren't any sure bets on this, they each have a 50% chance of showing.)

Both of you, if I miss when you post your breed poke me so I can post permission.

[Silvanon]

Going to post here all the babies from my horses and what (if anything) we learned from the breedings:



Palomino foal
*Theo (Palomino Frame Overo) x Goddess (Perlino Frame Overo)
  Learned: Goddess carries chestnut


Bay Roan foal
*Brandir (Black Leopard Appy) x *Sasha (Bay Roan)
  Learned: Brandir is heterozygous appy.


Palomino Blanket Appy foal
*Copper (Chestnut Tobiano) x Independence (Palomino Blanket Appy)
Learned: Copper is heterozygous Tobiano


Brown Silver Dapple Splash Overo foal
Night Splash(Black Splash Overo) x *Serrena(Silver Dapple Mouse Dun)
Learned: Serrena is heterozygous dun, and has at least one recessive p overo gene.


Perlino Sabino Overo foal
*Theo(Palomino Frame Overo) x Come In Closer(Grey Leopard Appy)
Learned: Come In Closer is heterozygous grey, heterogzygous appy, carries at least one dilute C gene, and carries at least one recessive p overo gene.


Black Silver Dapple Leopard Appy foal
*Copper x *Augite
Learned: Copper carries black and silver dapple (already knew he was heterozygous tobiano)


Brown foal
*Brandir x *Nanaea
Learned: Nanaea carries brown.  Evidence that Brandir is EE - foal 1/10


Black foal
*Brandir x Binah
Learned: Evidence that Brandir is EE - foal 2/10


Black splash overo leopard
Night Splash x *Krystelle
Learned: Krystelle has a p Overo gene.


Chestnut flaxen blanket appy
*Golden Dawn x *Golden Sunset
Learned: Dawn & Sunset are both heterozygous for tobiano.


Palomino blanket appy
Spotted Destiny x *Aella
Learned: Aella carries chestnut, she's heterozygous tobiano, and she has an N appy gene.


Bay Sabino Overo Snowflake Appy foal
*Golden Dawn x Balance Beam
Learned: Balance Beam is heterozygous tobiano and carries an N appy gene.


Bay Tobiano Leopard Appy foal
Beau x *Echo
Learned: Echo is heterozygous grey, she has an E gene, a C gene, and a z gene.  Either
Beau or Echo has an A, but we can't say for sure who.


Blue Dun Silver Dapple Leopard Appaloosa
*Dash x *Imogen
Learned: Imogen has an "n" appy gene.


Chestnut dun leopard tovero w/ flaxen
*Copper x Kayliee
Learned: Copper carries a flaxen gene (f) and an Overo frame gene (P).


Bay Roan Tobiano
Fanjan x *Sasha
Learned: Evidence towards homogeneous roan & bay for Sasha. 


Note:  If 10 breedings that could show heterozygous genes don't prove it, I will consider the horse homozygous.

[YourLoveOnly]

I think we also learned that Come In Closer is heterozygous appy?
My girl seems to have pretty interesting genes hidden =3
And the foal is just gorgeous <3

[PonyMama]

Well I have no idea really what any of mine are but I think becasue my foal is grown I can try another breeding (didn't see where there was a limit)  So by all means I have the paddock and if you wanna let me use a horse and let me know what you think I will go ahead and try it for you.

Worst comes to worst I get a pretty foal

[Silvanon]

PonyMama - Thanks!  I think a breeding between your gal and either Brandir or Septarian would be informative.  For Brandir black is a definite possibility, and chestnut might be.  For Septarian bay and black are definite possibilites, and chestnut might be.  (I don't know if either of them carries chestnut.)  Either way there'd be a 50% chance of tobiano.  With Brandir there'd be a 50% chance of appaloosa, with Septarian there'd be a 50% chance of roan.  Do you like roan or appy best?

[PonyMama]

I do like appys.  and which of my horses are you looking at?

[Silvanon]

PonyMama - Oh, I guess I was just assuming you were only offering Binah, since you'd mentioned her.  You don't actually have to wait for a foal to grow before submitting another breeding.  I've had two foals at once before.

As far as other pairings, of mine that are available currently, these pairings would be informative:

Copper x Urbi - 50% chance tobiano, base likely to be black or smokey black, possible chance of chestnut or golden buckskin

Theo x Jioni - 50% chance overo, at least 50% chance tobiano, at least 50% chance roan, could get any or all of those, base coat could be black or smokey black, if Jioni carries chestnut then chestnut and palomino become possible.

Aella x Nasiir - at least 50% chance tobiano baby.  Base coat we don't know what's possible, but bay is probably most likely, black and chestnut may be possible.

not quite as interesting: Aella x either of your blacks - almost certainly a black baby, at least 50% chance of tobiano


Aella x Nasiir - at least 50% chance tobiano baby.  Base coat we don't know what's possible, but bay is probably most likely, black and chestnut may be possible.

not quite as interesting: Aella x either of your blacks - almost certainly a black baby, at least 50% chance of tobiano

Imogen x Nasiir or a black boy - same outcomes as Aella, substitute in dun for tobiano

Tiara x Nasiir - good chance of bay, possible chance of black, possible chance of chestnut.

[PonyMama]

I got all the other horses after offering on here the first time.  Binah woudl be my  on of me first choices with Brandir though
My second pairing choice would be Theo x Jioni, we could learn a lot through this breeding.
and then third choice wou0dl be Aella x Nasiir

Good to know about the breedings too, I thought only one at a time but couldn't find it anywhere.

[toffeeca]

Can I get a breed with Krystelle, she will be with my Night Splash, hopefully that will get some good information out of them.

[PonyMama]

I woudl liek to use Brandir with Binah.  I will take kinda what you said and figure out what I will hope for and see how it goes.  I am getting ready to head otu so as logn as this is fine for now I will get ti all set up later.

[YourLoveOnly]

I am interested in breeding with Krystelle (I have enough points to buy myself a paddock), could you give any advice on interesting pairings?

[Silvanon]

PonyMama & toffeeca - sounds great, both of you!

YLO - ok, toffeeca got in a request for Krystelle first, so if you like I can reserve her breeding in a month for you.  Information-wise, for myself I'd probably pick your James (218) to pair with her.  Really though, I think for now it'd be best to wait and see what toffeeca's breeding produces, then we'll know more about Krystelle and what pairings are likely to result in what kinds of foals. 

[Tribe]

Ohh i need badly to nab a foaling paddock so i can breed autumns change to one of your girls...

[PonyMama]

would a good thing to maybe try for be Black leopard Appy?
I am guessing with two black parents she has a chance for black too, so try I guess.  Although it might be better to say they could produce Chestnut?
Just gathering info and putting up the breeding in the 2010 thread

Ok went with a guess of Chestnut Leopard Appy.  I may be wrong wrong wrong but I tried.

[Silvanon]

I'll cross my fingers for you that the dice favor that guess! 

[PonyMama]

No luck, and another girl

[toffeeca]

Ohhhh, I got a gorgeous girly.


And I believe that proves that your girl carries splash.

[Ravvana]

You know, I've decided that I want some foals, too XD

Would any of my drafts provide you with some potential answers?
http://stable.colbyforkicks.com/gallery/v/Horse+Owners/Ravvana/

[Silvanon]

Sure Rav  I think the following pairs could provide get info:

Krystelle x Colby or Riker
Serrena x Colby
Theo x Faith

I will mention all three of my drafts have been bred recently, so this would be at your own risk if you want to breed right away.  


Edit:  Got  my new horses up! 

[YourLoveOnly]

Would your new boy with my Balance Beam make a good pair?
She's a buckskin tovero (tobiano overo).

[Silvanon]

Um, possibly, but which of my 3 new boys are you refering to?

[YourLoveOnly]

Hehe, woops xD
I meant golden dawn, but if you think one of the others would work better you can tell me

[Pinkshadow]

i would love a RB with your Sasha or Aella for my Stripes ;


Brown he is

I belive you coloured him and many thanks for that
or i have this boy ;

[YourLoveOnly]

@Pinkshadow: in case you didn't know his coat yet, Spotted Destiny is a palomino leopard appy like his mom. His daddy is a strawberry roan.

[Pinkshadow]

thankies dear

[Silvanon]

Pinkshadow - unfortunately while I think Stripes is one awesome-looking stallion (if I do say so myself XD ) brown isn't a color that will give any definite genetic info for either mare, so that wouldn't be a free breed.  Spotted Destiny, on the other hand, fits two of the criteria I'm looking for on both mares (palomino being a chestnut base, and the leopard appy) so you'd be most welcome to pair him with either gal, or both if you have the paddocks and want to.  Sasha has a little bit of a wait left, she'll be available again on the 12th.  Aella is available immediately.

[Pinkshadow]

i will pair spotted with aella first then :p and we can pair the others up after if it is

[Silvanon]

YLO - sorry, I actually typed up a reply to your question the other day, and I could have sworn I posted it.  Anyways, yes, that breeding is fine.

Pink - ok, sounds good!

[YourLoveOnly]

I actually asked what the possible outcomes could be so I can figure out if I think they're an interesting pair And if you think another boy matches her better, please let me know ^^