Thoughts/Opinions on potentual issues and changes if we apply to be an agency?

[SGA]

OK, so I'm trying to straighten everything out, and make sure I am caught up on things before applications to become agencies opens again.  Because I originally bought the SC line with the intent to apply for agency status with them.  In light of that, there are some things I would like your thoughts/opinions about.


1. If we manage to become an agency, would you still want a certed copy of your SC's?  I am considering having the uncerted copy on the Secundi site, but still uploading a certed copy to the owners folder's on PB.  There are several reasons for this.  The first being that the colorists mark is located on the cert.  This is the way we give credit to the colorists that colored each SC.  The second, is that the Memorial mark is on the cert.  The memorial mark, is a little angel that you can have added to the corner of the cert, if you are getting a mimic of a beloved pet that has passed on.  And then, well, I just really like my certs lol  They did come to me premade, but I put a lot of work into tweaking them to get them just right for my liking.  And finally, there are still some PI users who haven't migrated over here, so if we did away with certs.. well, I'm not sure what to do about PI owners then.  So, thoughts?

2. Should there be a naming item or not?  I'm thinking not, because if I continue making the regular certs for the owners folders, then I would have to manually name everything anyway.  And regardless of the regular certs, there is still the stat cards to consider, and I would have to make those and need a name for that, so.. meh  Unless we also did away with stat cards.  But those are needed for the eventing competitions and such..

3. Darn, I had more items but can't remember them now heh Oh well, they will come back with time I guess.

Anything else anyone can think of that may be a problem/issue?  I want to try and think of as much as I can now, before I ever even apply, so we can have solutions ready.  Forethought and preparation and all that lol

[YourLoveOnly]

I vote opening imports and deleting the certed pets once they are imported. This means PI people don't have to come here and secundi people can get the pets on their pet page. Personally I feel that once they are on my pet page I would find it painful to go to the photobucket just to view a stat card or symbol.

I think both the colorist/memorial symbols and stat card can be added in the description of the pet. There is a description section that users can edit, but also an agency info section that only you could edit (where Silv writes down Quin coats and personalities and where TheKennel displays champ packs etc)

[SGA]

That's an interesting thought.  I had considered users just posting the stat cards in the description area, but then it would be up to them to change the stats as needed, and well, I think a lot of folks would forget to.  But I had forgot about the agency info section.  That could work.  It depends on how easy/hard it would be for me to go in and edit stuff there on a regular basis.  I could also do away with stat cards entirely and just list the stats in that area, if need be.  I'd really like to keep the stat cards though, if the image will fit in that space, with the colorists mark and memorial mark, that would be great and certainly solve the problem.  And keeping the actual card, would ensure I remembered to update it and had a record saved in case it was lost somehow on Secundi.

If an agency pet is traded, and there is somethign in the agency info area, that info gets transferred with the pet automatically?  That would be the only problem I can see, other then the card possibly not fitting.  The info getting deleted when the pet is traded.. I don;t think I've tried to trade a pet with agency info yet.

Oh, and if need be, I can remove the SC's name form the stat card, and keep it with just the ID on it, that way it won;t matter how many times the name gets changed.

[zarzamora]

Yes it all just transfers over with the sale x

[YourLoveOnly]

Yes it transfers over. A lot of Little Chimaera list the colorist in that area and Quin list coat colors, that info stays. It would be a lot of trouble if the Quinsta coats would disappear every time they got traded @_@

I personally think it would look nicer to just type the stats in the box and it would also be quicker to change than having to update an image and reuploading and replacing it. I don't really have a preference for colorist symbol vs. colorist name typed in, but I do think the memorial symbol should stay in place.

[Ryuukokoro]

I also vote for deleting certs, as YLO has said all the information can be put in the pet description.

Check the Faequine agency pets and you will see Garney did a little cert of stats for each pet and uploaded that image to the description section. You could do the same with your stats, and also put the colorist info (check the Chims, I believe they record in the description who colored each Chim) and the memorial icon into the description.

And it's just my personal opinion, but I think a naming item is essential for any agency. It's just SO much of a pain to be constantly popping into the admin portion of the site to rename critters, not to mention a pain for your followers who have to pm you if they want a name change.

[YourLoveOnly]

Oh yes I forgot to comment on that, I agree with the naming item, so much easier. If you don't want to charge people too much for such a thing you can make them as cheap as 1 SG.

[SGA]

lol I never traded a Quinsta already owned, so didn't think of it that way.

I see Garneys stat card thing on fae things, it is MUCH smaller then SC stat card.  If it comes down to it, and we actually get voted in for being an agency, then I will have to test it out and see which I like better, typing the info in, or putting my stat cards in.

Here is a thought, if I do away with the certed copies entirely for those who import.. what happens if Secundi dies one day?  Not something I want to think of happening, but something my paranoia insists that I take into consideration.


And OK, any ideas on what to use for a naming item?  I was thinking a carrot.. carrot, horses.. yea that was really hard lol  BUT.. if I manage to get some of my other lines here, and part of the agency..well, a carrot wouldn't work for them all.  And if I apply it will be under SGA agency, with SC as a species, not SC agency.  So wouldn't the naming item need to be universal for any/all species I have/may have imported in?

[YourLoveOnly]

Well if secundi dies one day it's not like we will be able to post to complain XD (I assume you mean dying in a site goes P00F kinda way?) And it's not like you can post to redirect us to a different site then

And if you feel the need to keep the certs, you could, I think it would be confusing when people are trying to figure out which pets are and are not imported. But as long as all the info is in the agency description box I don't mind, I would just find it annoying if it was only on the cert and I was forced to go to photobucket every time. Kinda beats the whole agency benefits xD

Simple solution if you want it to work for all your adoptables: simply make it a naming ticket. not very shiny, but it works!

[SGA]

Yes, I mean Poof as in gone.  And if that happened, I could always add contact and "relocating" information to the SGA website.  I can always re-institute certing if that happens.  The only thing would be, knowing/having proof of who each SC belongs to if the site vanishes and I can't look it up.  If I keep the stat cards and just upload them to the agency info, then atleast I will have preserved that much, because I'll always have an updated copy on my machine and in PB.  But that won't tell me who each SC belongs to.  And keeping certs isn't really logical with a naming item, because an SC could change hands and I never know so cert doesn't get updated.  Not really something I had considered before, and not somethign I can see an easy way around.. Meh

I'm not really "too" concerned with PI folks either, because SC's were always meant for Secundi, and only intro'd on PI because there wasn't a lot of active folks here at the time and I had hoped to lure some SGA stalkers over here.

*wonders what other problems she hasn't thought of yet*

[YourLoveOnly]

Yeah well the only way to solve that would be keeping certs and letting people PM you for every trade, which I personally find a real hassle. I like Agency Pets because they can run without having to control every little step. As much as you can ask, not everyone will remember to PM you when trading. I also prefer to name my pets myself when I think of something, instead of bugging the adoptable staff who might be busy at that moment. So yeah, I kinda understand the concern, but I think the solution is so much of hassle I would let that concern slide, no matter how hard you may find that.

[zarzamora]

silvanon has put so much work and effort into Secundi that I can;t just see that she would let it go poof! Not without prior warning

[SGA]

OK, new question.  IF we ever manage to become an agency, how long should it be till a foal grows?

Right now, there is no set limit for when they grow, I had been just posting a thread whenever I had spare time and whoever wanted their foals grown comes to it and asks for me to grow them.  But it was never intended to be that way, it was just me forgetting to grow them when they were supposed to grow.  I had originally intended the foals to grow after one month.  Quite a lengthy time, but I wanted it to be in order to give folks a chance to acquire and use halters if they intended as it gives you a bit of extra "training". 

But, as I said, I never could remember to grow foals on time.  If we become an agency I plan to try and utilize the auto grow system that The Kennel uses.  That will ensure your foals are grown in a timely manner, without depending on my ever faulty memory.  But, being as growings to this point have not been following a time line, I wondered how you all felt about the month to grow.  Should it be shorter? Longer?

[Winged]

I think a month is okay for grow time, but probably the upper limit. Perhaps 3 weeks?