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Started by red_uni387, February 11, 2010, 09:52:24 PM

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red_uni387

http://springstarstables.webs.com/geneticcodes.htm

those are what I have so far, and then I got stuck on the greys and buckskin XD any help is greatly appreciated <333

Tribe

okay lets see how i do.

I dont think piebald is an acutal sort of paint marking hun..
So mare one id say black tabino.

mare two can be a grey yes or possibly a blue dun or grulla..though id go with grey over anything as she lack leg stripes or a dorsal stripe.

stallion one i think is a sabino yes.

mare three looks to be a bay with stockings and a blaze :D

stallion two looks to be an overo maybe a frame overo

silver moons deff a blue dun..this is also considered a grulla i think >.>

wind songs worded correctly though any way you word it its correct and the last boy there is a bay tabino yes.

Lectral

#2
Painted Desire - Tobiano, not sure the base, looks black, but could be wrong (piebald... probably, but Rav doesn't use that term)

Foggy Days - probably grey

Dark Nights - probably sabino

Roasted Chestnuts - also sabino, on bay

Peanut Butter - Overo (frame)

Silver Moon - ... hey, that's my stable name!  blue dun looks right

Wind Song - word order shouldn't actually matter, as long as the right parts are there

Cocoa Bean - I think you have his XD

There is no Tabino - there is Sabino or Tobiano, any combination of the two is usually called Tovero, as sabino is "usually" lumped in with Overo in those cases



Ravvana

In order, top down...

Black tobiano
Gray
Black sabino
Bay sabino
Chestnut frame overo
Blue dun
Silver dapple bay roan
Bay tobiano

I think Lectral was basically 100% correct, but I already had this typed up XD

red_uni387

thanks guys! :D

wow I feel lucky I got a frame overo without directly breeding 2 overos :D

whoops sorry for using your stable name, Lectral XD I thought it suited her nicely

Ravvana

Quote from: red_uni387 on February 11, 2010, 10:05:37 PMwow I feel lucky I got a frame overo without directly breeding 2 overos :D

Yep, overos are tricky to breed, as you really don't want to breed overo x overo, given the 25% chance of lethal. So the best chance you'll really have if 50/50 if you don't take that risk.

red_uni387

hehe I know, studied LWO the past week for my science class :) sad how they die so soon :(

Goddesss

I should see what mine are.  You have some pretty babies there.




red_uni387

thanks goddesss :D your drafties are amazing too, can't wait to see what offspring they'd produce~

Lectral

Wheeeeee, I like it when I can get them right :D



Goddesss

sera breed Apple Dapple so I have to wait a bit.  Plus I need a paddock

Not the baby I expected since she has a white stallion







red_uni387

#11
white hides genes, like grey ^^ Lost(Foggy Days) produced an overo offspring

edit: okay looking at what Blues and Coke can produce and I'm guessing yellow dun at this point XD

Blues - DD or Dd and tt (blue dun)
Coke - AA or AAt or Aa + TT or Tt (bay tobiano)

is yellow dun even a possiblity?

Goddesss

ah so you could have anything really




red_uni387

*nudge* some help with genetic codes please? Dx I tried getting them but I think I did them wrong >>

YourLoveOnly

If no one has done them for you by the time I wake up tomorrow morning I will do them  :)
Right now I'm sick of staring at codes, I just did codes for my 53 adult horses O.o
Still need to do foals and check for mistakes xD

red_uni387

O_O 53 horses?! dang that's a lot to look up codes for

also....your grey sabino is drool-worthy and I must get a breed with him one day...when I get another foaling paddock :)

YourLoveOnly

.. I want more paddocks too xD
And yes 53 adults right now, I am so done for tonight xD Will do foals and figure out what horses to charge fees for tomorrow and sunday (always really busy during weekends).

quyllur

Painted Desire
E? aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? T? oo ?? ?? zz ??

Foggy Days
e? ?? c? r? d? G? ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? ?z ??

Dark Nights
E? aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo Pp ?? zz ??

Roasted Chestnuts
E? A? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo Pp ?? zz ??

Peanut Butter
ee ?? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo PP FF ?? ??

Silver Moon
E? aa cc rr D? gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz ??


Wind Song
E? A? cc R? dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? Z? ??

Cocoa Bean
E? A? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? T? oo ?? ?? zz ??

Coffee Cream
E? A? CrCr rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo PP (?)ff ?? ??
(I don't know if the double cream would mask the flaxen)

Milky Way
E? aa cc ?? dd G? ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz bb
Based on the fact that her flea bites appear black, I'm guessing she's  black base underneath the grey.  I could be wrong on this however.

Shadow Whisper
E? aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo (pp or Pp) ?? zz ??
( I figured she could be Sabino or Splash, so put in both options)


red_uni387

#18
Thank you quyllur! :D

Shadow is sabino ^^

edit: oooo finally got a foaling paddock~

what are the chances of Painted Desire x Dark Night = black splash tovero? :D

YourLoveOnly

You don't know if they are red carriers, so they could produce either black or chestnut babies. There's a much higher chance of getting black foals.

Painted Desire does not have pawprints, so it's more likely that's she heterozygous. So there's a 50% chance the baby will have tobiano.

Overo is always heterozygous, homozygous overo causes lethal white, so Dark Night has a 50% chance of passing on his overo gene. You don't know what overo pattern Painted Desire has, so you have a chance at all overo patterns: frame, sabino or splash. If Dark Night would have had another pattern it would have been a little more predictable (only 2 possible patterns), but because he has Pp you can get all three patterns, depending on what gene he passes and what your girl carries.

I would probably guess black tobiano overo and hope for 2 out of 3 right.

red_uni387

#20
yay you were right YLO! :D

Painted Desire
Ee aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? Tt oo P? ?? zz ??

Dark Nights
E? aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo Pp ?? zz ??

so now I know she is heterozygous for tobiano and has at least one captial P for overo :D

Ravvana

Colby and Desire had a chestnut foal, so you also know she has one little "e" :) Making her Ee.

red_uni387

oh that's right! Thank you for bringing it up Rav <3

YourLoveOnly

The foal is simply gorgeous <3
I love paint on blacks ^^

red_uni387

#24
a bit stumped on what color these guys are XD


buckskin I think...
((rav says - golden buckskin))


fleabitten grey? looks very different from my other 2 fleabitten greys though D:

quyllur

The second one is a dapple grey.

The first one looks like it could be a really pale buckskin, doesn't have any of the dun factors so it's probably not a grullo, so I'd go with buckskin.

red_uni387

#26
thank you!! :D

edit: ack stuck again XD there's no buckskin under roan, so do I use rr cause buckskin's bay/brown + cream?

red_uni387

lol I have quite a few grey horses XD I don't quite know how to string together their genetic code either hehe >> could somebody help me out a bit? I plan on breeding one of them soon and so need the code to figure out what to guess the baby as

the 4 I need are:
gen 1 - fleabitten grey
gen 1 - silver dapple grey
gen 2 - grey tobiano (from fleabitten grey tobiano mother and Smoky black, roan, dun, blanket appaloosa father)
gen 2 - fleabitten grey tobiano (from fleabitten grey father and grey tobiano frame overo mother)

thanks in advance :D hopefully I'll be able to do this by myself eventually x_x